Wednesday, April 30, 2025

NFL Draft 2025: Will the New York Giants draft QB Shedeur Sanders?

The 2025 NFL Draft has formally come and gone and it was fairly the doozy.

Some issues went chalk and others had been full surprises. That is a part of the magic of the draft: There’s at all times one thing that occurs that catches us off guard.

With the mud absolutely deciding on the outcomes we figured now could be the very best time for us at The Skinny SubmitMichael Peterson and RJ Ochoa, to handle a number of the bigger issues to occur all through all of it.

Let’s start.


Mel Kiper appeared to crash out on stay tv, stating that the NFL has been clueless on quarterback analysis for over 50 years. Was this the pot calling the kettle black?

Michael:

It appeared so out of left subject. The Shedeur Sanders discourse was unsurprisingly on the forefront of all NFL Draft protection resulting from a slide that completely nobody on the skin of an NFL franchise noticed coming.

Following Sanders’ choice by the Browns within the fifth spherical, Kiper went on an odd, emotional, and prolonged tangent calling out NFL evaluators for his or her incapacity to correctly scout quarterbacks over the previous 50 years. To borrow a phrase out of the Gen Z playbook, it was tremendous “cringe.” It was exhausting to observe from the man many deem to be the “godfather” of recent draft protection.

Right here’s the factor: Kiper is identical man who mentioned he’d retire if former Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen didn’t make it within the NFL (he didn’t). He additionally thought JaMarcus Russell could be the subsequent coming of John Elway (he was not). To high all of it off, he was a giant proponent for Lamar Jackson switching to extensive receiver so he may have a greater probability of creating it as a profitable professional (spoiler alert: Jackson has a number of MVPs as a quarterback).

Was this, indirectly, the start of the tip for Kiper as a decent draft voice? I do know that sounds a bit over-exaggerated, however there’s a wealth of younger, up-and-coming draft voices who may simply step in and supply the identical, if not higher, protection of NFL draft prospects throughout all three days. I’m already seeing individuals on X carry up the thought of holding Kiper off the desk for subsequent yr.

I’m undecided I disagree with that sentiment.

RJ:

To be fairly sincere, I don’t have a very passionate tackle all of this.

It was undoubtedly predictable that there could be robust, deeply held opinions about Sanders falling — possibly a cause why he did so if we enable ourselves to zoom out — and Mel Kiper definitely exhibited ardour in his level.

I believe it’s high quality for him to defend that he discovered the state of affairs to be preposterous and unfair whereas not calling out the method at massive. To behave like all single individual is batting even .250 at evaluating NFL Draft expertise is disingenuous. I do know that Michael introduced up Kiper’s errors in analysis prior to now, however everybody misses. All of us are positive about one thing that doesn’t work out or assure a participant will fail who goes on to thrive.

If I’ve a grand takeaway it’s that typically it’s okay to say you don’t know what’s occurring. Within the case of Shedeur there have been clearly assumptions about his fame derailing the whole lot, however guessing at something is absolutely simply superior conjecture. I’d have personally been high quality if Kiper or anybody would have provided one thing alongside the strains of, “look I can’t consider that is occurring… I’ve no logical rationalization for it.”

Generally that’s greater than high quality.


Shut your eyes and see the long run… who’s profitable OROTY?

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RJ:

There are a handful of choices to select from, clearly. Tennessee’s Cam Ward will make lots of sense and has the benefit of being a quarterback… maybe in that respect somebody like Jaxson Dart will shock us by getting within the combine and operating away with it.

So far as I’m involved there is no such thing as a cause or must overthink this and due to this fact I’m going to go together with Travis Hunter. The Jaguars traded as much as get him and in all chance didn’t accomplish that for him to not be a predominant a part of their general operation. Trevor Lawrence is in want of a bounce-back type of season… the maths simply makes an excessive amount of sense.

For what it’s value I’ve not seen a ton of “Travis Hunter may win BOTH Rookie of the 12 months awards” however I’ll say that I’ll hedge my guess a bit and assure that he wins not less than one.

Michael:

As a lot as I hate to confess it, I believe new Raiders operating again Ashton Jeanty goes to run away with the award this yr (pun completely supposed).

The Raiders did get their new beginning quarterback by buying and selling for Geno Smith however I simply don’t see how Pete Carroll gained’t attempt to trip Jeanty to the promised land. I can already see it. Smith goes to pelt tight finish Brock Bowers with a billion targets as a result of Jeanty’s effectiveness will maintain the play-action recreation extensive open. The latter shall be fed, fed, and fed en path to profitable the league’s Offensive Rookie of the 12 months honor, proper after his new teammate Bowers did it in 2024.

And sure, I’m so down dangerous realizing that the Chargers should face the Raiders and Jeanty twice a yr for the foreseeable future. It’s not precisely the identical, but it surely feels harking back to once I realized Patrick Mahomes was going to be wonderful and that I’d have to observe him dominate the Bolts yearly after I used to be pushing for him to be LA’s decide at No. 7 that yr over Mike Williams.


Which workforce put collectively your favourite draft class?

Michael:

A whole lot of groups posted pictures on X of their total draft lessons following the tip of day three. The one class that actually made me cease and stare was the Seattle Seahawks. It is a workforce that blew me away with their group that was full of measurement and athleticism.

Their first-round decide, offensive guard Gray Zabel, was one of many most secure picks for a offensive lineman within the class. He’s 6’6 and a mauler. Seattle then adopted that decide up by choosing South Carolina security Nick Emmanwori, a 6’3, 220-pound security who blew the doorways off of the NFL Mix.

The ultimate two picks on Day 2 had been Miami tight finish Elijah Arroyo and Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe. Once more, two dudes with immense athleticism and dynamic play-making potential. The Seahawks don’t even want a quarterback however the offensive minds within the room will most likely discover a option to get the elusive Milroe on the sphere to make a distinction for his or her workforce as a rookie.

Final however not least, I’ve to shout out their fifth-round number of Alabama fullback/tight finish Robbie Outzs. This man sported the very best mustache on the NFL Mix and is a home.

There’s a lot to like about this group. After being the one 10-win workforce within the NFL to overlook out on the playoffs in 2024, anticipate the Seahawks to be extremely motivated to by no means be in that place once more.

RJ:

It pains me to say this, however I actually like what the New York Giants did.

To be clear I believe the good groups within the Philadelphia Eagles and Baltimore Ravens all did their standard factor, however I believe that the Giants are on the very least one step nearer to fixing the whole lot that has been happening for a decade (longer if we’re prepared to acknowledge that their two Tremendous Bowl wins had been unimaginable, but in addition the product of supreme luck).

I’m a proud Arizona State Solar Satan and due to this fact devastated that Cam Skattebo goes to run at my Dallas Cowboys twice a yr for the foreseeable future. The factor is that the Giants have begun to construct a longtime core of younger offensive gamers in Skattebo and (clearly) quarterback Jaxson Dart… oh and Abdul Carter now will get to wreak havoc and possibly even make life simpler for Kayvon Thibodeaux.

It’s tremendous simple for a workforce just like the Eagles as talked about to maintain being elite. That’s boring.

Seeing the Giants take a severe step ahead is applause-worthy.


Which was essentially the most “after all” draft decide of the complete group?

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RJ:

Anybody who watched the School Soccer Playoff knew that Jack Sawyer was going to be a enjoyable decide for whoever finally wound up with him. The play that he made for Ohio State to shut out the Cotton Bowl towards the Longhorns was an all-timer.

It was the type of play that celebrity defensive gamers like T.J. Watt make, so after all destiny would lead Sawyer to the Pittsburgh Steelers. By all measures, Sawyer looks as if a dude who’s going to simply grind perpetually and ever which makes him an ideal match for the Metal Metropolis.

If I can add to this I’ll say that Will Howard, Sawyer’s Ohio State quarterback, ending up in Pittsburgh is one thing we’re not speaking about fairly sufficient. I do know we marvel if Aaron Rodgers is finally nonetheless going to signal there, however Howard presents a undertaking to work on for the long run on the very least.

Michael:

Jack Sawyer is a very good decide right here.

For me, I can’t assist however decide a workforce that — with out lacking a beat yearly — finds a option to draft a participant that had no enterprise being out there after they had been on the clock within the first spherical. In fact, I’m speaking in regards to the Philadelphia Eagles in some way getting the prospect to select Alabama linebacker Jihaad Campbell at No. 31 when he was anticipated to return off the board anyplace from No. 8 to No. 15.

In a category that appeared to lack any elite expertise on the off-ball linebacker spot, the Eagles took benefit and bought the highest man at a place that appears to have been devalued lately. On the similar time, if you happen to take a look at the groups who’ve been essentially the most profitable lately, all of them are inclined to make use of a fairly good participant within the center. Take into consideration Zack Baun who was prolonged by the Eagles this offseason. The 49ers and Fred Warner. The Ravens and Roquan Smith. There appears to be a development right here.

The Eagles didn’t even NEED Campbell, however they took him anyway as a result of they actually do stand by the idea of choosing the very best participant out there and I assure — on multiple event this upcoming season — we’ll be watching the Eagles protection dominate and say to ourselves, “I can’t consider they had been allowed to draft this man.”

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